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21. Kelechi Okafor On the Illusion of Political Choice
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21. Kelechi Okafor On the Illusion of Political Choice

Welcome to another episode of our podcast Abolition, Liberation, Solidarity, A Here4TheKids Production.

Today, Saira welcomes London-based actor, writer, and podcaster Kelechi Okafor to the podcast.

Kelechi and Saira discuss how in both American and British politics, opposing political parties ultimately represent the same goals. They also talk about the British Monarchy, the role of AI in our internet discourse, and how to keep moving through a world on fire.

Kelechi’s book Edge of Here˛combines the ancient and the ultramodern to explore tales of contemporary Black womanhood, asking questions about the way we live now and offering a glimpse into our near future. 

You can connect to her on Instagram.


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The Connections
Abolition, Liberation, Solidarity: A Here4TheKids Production
NYT bestselling author, activist, and co-founder of Here4TheKids Saira Rao hosts engaging conversations with other activists and deep thinkers about abolition and confronting global systems of oppression.